In our one-hundred and eighty-fifth episode we are in Conroe, Texas for the 2023 September HERPS Show.  We are joined by a couple of great and interesting people.  First we sit down Tom Harbin of Tom Harbin Reptiles.  Tom tells us all about his hognose breeding and shares some amazing stories from the reptile hobby history.  Then we are joined again by our great friend Max Hicks of Max - Wildlife Photographer on YouTube.  Max tells us again how he refused to get eaten by a wild animal when he traveled to see Komodo dragons in the wild.

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